A Perverts Fairytale

As part of grooming a child, pedophiles will often 'play' games with children which involve a lot of physical contact and touching. "Wrestling games" seem to be a favorite amongst pedo's, who are sexually excited at being able to molest a child under the guise of 'playing a game.' From GirlChat:

Silentmist

"I remember wrestling around with my stepdaughters and one of my older stepdaughters friend one time. She was 10yo and I could distinctly "sense" her arousal."

Justincredible

"i had my 4 lg friends over today (none of which are over 10 yrs old) and we were all wrestling as we usually do...."

In the same post, Justincredible goes on to talk about how one of the young girl's (approximately 5 years-old) who he was 'playing with,' had stopped and was:

"laying face down on the bed pulling the sheet up between her legs and humping it, and i mean all out thrusting, clenching butt cheeks and everything. she was even putting her hands down there too, not down her pants, or at least i'm pretty sure not, but just down there."

Kids will occasionally touch themselves as they develop into an adult and explore their bodies, there could be nothing abnormal about it or it could be a sign of something else - in either case you're probably thinking: the best thing to do in a situation like this is to quietly tell the child's parents what's going on so they can have that conversation with their daughter... right?

If you thought like that, you're not thinking like a pervert does:

"she must have done this like 10 times. i continued wrestling with the other girls but kept watching her the whole time.

of course it was driving me absolutely bonkers. everytime she turned over to take a break i'd smile at her. it turned me on so bad i had to take a break and go into the bathroom."

- Totally sick in the head, Justin has this to say about his writing:

"i admit my posts usually do have a level of "fairytale" feel. but that's how i write, my job involves writing and i have always been quite the wordsmith."

International Boylove Day - 2009

Twice each year, pedophile activists celebrate "International Boylove Day;" Today, December the 26th, 2009 is the second "International Boylove Day" celebration for 2009, and it's also just over a month since high-level members of Boylover.net were raided by law enforcement agencies around the world.

To mark this "International Boylove Day," we've produced a short video about the raids...

How Snitching Can Improve Your Life

Look at Dylan Thomas as he's led from the plane a year and a half ago. Dirty, filthy and disgusting. He'd been begging in the streets of Mexico for food to survive, bringing it back to his apartment to eat like an animal amongst all the rotting food and debris pedos are known for.

But now, it's all paid off and he can live a comfortable life made easier knowing he's helped to catch his fellow pedo brothers.

Perhaps he was just lonely in jail and hoped they'd be joining him and he'd have someone to listen to him pontificate for the next 20 to 50 years about how much he just loved little boys and of course would never hurt them.

See this story:

And watch the video of Dylan Thomas - the shifty-eyed Webmaster of BoyChat being led into the courtroom where the victim's mother says

"He has shown himself cold, calculating, self-centered, deceitful, and very willing to use the innocent and naive to serve his personal ends."

"After spending nine years on the FBI's most wanted list, a New Hampshire man pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 5-year-old boy in Deerfield, N.H.

Police said Jon Schillaci fled when the investigation into the assault started and was on the run until they caught up with him in June 2008. Schillaci was arrested in Mexico after spending nearly a decade on the run.

Schillaci was sentenced to 20 to 50 years in prison after pleading guilty to one count of felonious sexual assault and 23 counts of possession of child pornography.

The investigation began October 1999 when a 5-year-old told his parents that Schillaci had improperly touched him. Police later found child pornography on his computer.

Schillaci had been invited to Deerfield by the boy's parents after his release from prison in Texas, where he was convicted of sexually assaulting two 11-year-old boys. While in prison, Schillaci exchanged letters with the Deerfield family, who wanted to give him a second chance.

In a letter read in court by the prosecutor, the boy's mother said that everyone deserves a second chance, but Schillaci spit on the chance they gave him.

But why a plea agreement? Why not just take it to trial and get the biggest sentence possible? A couple of reasons:

Prosecutors said one reason they agreed to the plea agreement was to spare the boy, now 15, from testifying. Schillaci also cooperated with federal authorities, and officials said that led to more than one child being rescued from an abusive situation.

And Dylan? Well, that big talking, fat-mouthed, filthy pedophile doesn't have to beg for food anymore. I guess he's quite comfy now. He's starting to look like Ghostwriter as a matter of fact. 'Cept he won't be going to Mexico anytime soon.



If I were the BoyChatters, I'd be afraid. I'd be very afraid.

A Sleeping Beast of Prey

BoyChat member, Dgennero A.K.A. Michael Tanner, tries the oldest pedo-garbage lines in the book when it comes to defending his pedophilia:

"If you don't make a difference between people whose sexual desire gets out of control and boylovers who LOVE, not EXPLOIT, boys with heart and soul, you are blind. Do you realize that attitudes like yours CREATE molesters? You suppress the sexual urge which leads to neurosis. Some people then become molesters, others become pedophobes. You said: "It's their bodies, let the boys choose..." EXACTLY, you're darn right!"

"Boylovers just looooove children soooo much" so much, that they try at all costs to convince themselves that any sexual contact with children isn't exploitative and harmful. Pedophiles even try to blind themselves into believing that children want to be molested - we all know how the distorted pedo-brains can't distinguish kids just being kids from what the perverts wish was "flirtatious" behavior.

Tanner has this to say to people who think kids deserve to live free from the sickness pedophiles have to offer:

"Maybe I myself feel that deep inside myself there's a sleeping beast of prey, maybe inside of everyone.

Of course many people have aggressive fantasies from time to time but don't act out. These fantasies aren't necessarily unhealthy. Usually there are enough "dams" or "shields" around our personality. Here I see what happens if the dams break and the shields fall."

"When I'm aggressive my target usually is those who try to kill the feeling of BOYLOVE, not the BOY I love. I pray it never ever will be!"

Be sure to read Michael Tanners article on Wikisposure.

What do these websites have in common?

Boylover.net

BoyZoom

BoyLandOnline

KidzLandOnline

Well, according to BoyChat, they're all no longer online as a result of the November 25th raids:

ImaginaryBoy

"As part of a domino effect from the BL.net raids and having its sister site KidzLandOnline shutdown over "content concerns" by the host BoyLandOnline has been shutdown permanently, I fear the days of BL boards may be coming to an end.

"Due to all the recent events in the BL world we no longer believe that BLOL is a safe place for our members. The members security is our main concern so regrettably we have taken the decision to close BLOL permanently. Thanks for all the support you have over the years and good luck for the future.

A special thanks go to all the members who have served as Staff Members over the years we have been open. You have done a tremendous job in keeping BLOL safe and this decision in no way reflects on you.

Believe you me I shed tears as I typed this post.""

BoyLandOnline and KidzLandOnline are the latest to collapse following the arrests of several high-level Boylover.net members and the administrator of BoyZoom:

Sexyboy

"If you look at all these things and the thick atmosphere of irrational fear and intense hatred of us and combine it with the wikisposure 'reasoning' I am sad to say it is actually a miracle that we have survived this long and I'm deeply deeply saddened because in my heart of hearts I think that boychat's days our numbered too."

Hotlink

"Damn !! If this kind of shit keeps happening, were all gunna be homeless."

Glvr_karl

"Anyone know what happened to kidzlandonline.com? It's like, gone! Do you think they could have been raided too? "

In just a few weeks, the web presence of pedophile activism has been significantly reduced.

The point of the book...

Earlier during the week more details surfaced about the case which has dominated internet pedophile message boards for the past few weeks: Dale Hodges A.K.A. Jagdawg and Daryl Demke, had allegedly admitted to committing child sex crimes while they were being arrested:

"Demke allegedly admitted he molested a 9-year-old boy from Dahlonega."

"When Hodges' townhome was searched, he allegedly admitted to giving his neighbor Demke child pornography."

I don't think anyone was surprised to find out they were probably guilty. That is, anyone except for David Riegel, who was already in the process of writing a book about it:

"This proposed book is to be based upon what is seen as an overstepping of both legal limits and common sense by law enforcement operatives in Atlanta and elsewhere, a matter that is still being researched, and which is in need of contributions from those affected. It is a work in progress, and the chapters, which are in some cases only a beginning, and which are available only in MSWord format for downloading, may change on a daily or even hourly basis."

Here's an update on the progress of Riegels book anyway - in light of the alleged admissions of guilt:

David Riegel A.K.A. Bridgebuilder:

"After civil discussion over on BLISS, it seemed as though the title previously used for the book on the BLN debacle, The Atlanta Witch Hunt, was inappropriate and unsatisfactory because "witches" had actually been caught."

So, he's scraped the title of the book and acknowledged the fact that those raided probably admitted they're guilty, but he's contining to write his book. Now the book is about:

"The point of the book is that the "crimes" committed by three of the people in Atlanta (the fourth had nothing to do with porn or boys) were only connected to boylover.net by the obvious and outright lies (e.g., upgrading to full membership required submitting ten pieces of child pornography, etc.)"

But from what we here at AZ have seen of Riegels 'book project,' it's degenerated even further to being much more like the other books he written: books about David Riegels own pedo-philosophy. These books have in the past earned him the scorn, of even other pedophile activists - and that was reading what he'd written before he was aware that the Boylover.net members had allegedly confessed.

The actual topic of Riegels book has little to do with the raids on Boylover.net - the actual goal is to appeal to other pedophiles activists, to adopt Riegels own bizarre ideas about pedophilia:

"It is commonly assumed that sexually expressed relationships between boys and older males are intrinsically "wrong" and harmful, and that all scientific evidence and research supports these assumptions. But any such empirical evidence is actually rare, and there is much evidence that, on the contrary, such relationships, so long as they are consensual, are more likely to be positive and beneficial."

But I've got a better idea for Riegels book: maybe he could write about how pro-pedophile comments help incite pedophiles to commit sexual crimes against children - he could even use the arrests of Boylover.net members as examples.

The Future of "Boylove"

In Atlanta, while the anti-pedophile raids on Dale Hodges AKA Jagdawg and Joseph Gittings AKA Joecool were going down, a third member of Boylover.net was also being taken into custody: Daryl Demke. Who lived next door to Hodges, as his neighbor.

"In a Roswell police report, a detective said Demke allegedly admitted he molested a 9-year-old boy from Dahlonega. According to the incident report, Demkey told the detective that he had "befriended [the 9-year-old] and attempted to be a mature male figure" in the boy's life.

Demke went on to say that in October the boy had stayed over at his home, a frequent occurrence, and the abuse began. Demke apparently confessed to taking pictures of the acts and saved them to his computer.

"After that he confessed to all this stuff," said McGee."

More about Dale Hodges and Daryl Demke:

"In November, the source also met with Hodges at his townhome. There, he reported seeing pornographic images of children allegedly stored on Hodges' computer.

When Hodges' townhome was searched, he allegedly admitted to giving his neighbor Demke child pornography. In the Roswell police report, ICE agents confirmed there was alleged child pornography on Demke's computer, which was seized."

In the days following the collapse of Boylover.net and BoyZoom, we've seen comments by pedophiles complaining about how they're no longer able to get "support" from these groups. However, the only "support" these groups offer is support for pedophilia, and support in rationalizing child abuse. Just look at their leadership - that's the future "Boylove" has to offer.

Boylover.net Members Denied Bond

According to one news article:

"Dale Hodges (pictured far left), 27, of 114 Old Ferry Way in Roswell, was also arrested Nov. 25 and charged with receiving and possessing child pornography.
Walker denied his bond Monday."

In regards to Joseph Gittings (pictured immediate left):

"Joseph Gittings, 24, of 1930 Chadwick Drive, has been charged with distribution of child pornography.

He was expected to appear Wednesday afternoon before U.S. Magistrate Linda T. Walker.

U.S. Attorney Jill Steinberg said she planned to ask that bond not be set for Gittings."

Things aren't looking good at all for the Boylover.net perverts, who were arrested along with others around the globe last week:

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement Special Agent David Westall testified that a confidential source told authorities that in October, Gittings burned images of child pornography onto a DVD.

“During the time the source was in the house, he saw a file on Gittings’ computer labeled ‘Jagdawg,’ which is an online moniker for Dale Hodges,” Steinberg said. “Gittings conveyed to the source that those images were given to Gittings by Dale Hodges.”

Despite the evidence mounting up against them, hope still echos from the pedo-refugee camps. You see, David Riegel AKA Bridgebuilder has got a plan: he's is going to write book in which all will be revealed!

Bridgebuilder:

"Glad you posted - please convey my best wishes to the other directors and staff. I am trying to assemble the "facts" of the raid on BLN for a "rebuttal" project I have begun to develop, and would be very pleased to hear privately from you or others."

He may not have facts.

He may not even know anything about how the raids went down, or why.

But he's writing a rebuttal to it all!

After it's complete, Riegel plans to submit the rebuttal to Amazon.com in the form of a PDF, where he will sell it next to his other pro-pedophile books. With its solid foundation - people will be falling over themselves to shell out money to read it.

lets dance!

Keep watching pedophiles....

Pedo-refugees flood the internet...

As their favorite pervert forums collapse one after the other. The most recent closure is that of Loren Robb's "BoyZoom:"

"GENERAL NOTICE - 1st December 2009

BoyZoom's Independent News Page

The BoyZoom board is now closed permanently.

Please be assured that this is a unilateral action by the partners and is not at the behest of any court order.

It is a deeply sad decision we have taken, but we consider it is a prudent step for all concerned; consequently all data and board activity relating to each and every member has been securely deleted from the server.

We hope that everyone enjoyed their time as members and wish you all a safe + happy future.

The BoyZoom Partnership"

This follows a Police raid of Loren Robb and the arrest of several high-level Boylover.net members in various parts of the globe. In the aftermath of the closure of Boylover.net and now BoyZoom, pedo-refugees wander the internet looking for any forum which will tolerate people who want to abuse children for sexual pleasure. Some of them show up on BoyChat:

BZ-lostsoul:

"Such a shame:(. BoyZoom has been my on-line home. I'm wasted.:("

ABoyZoomer:

"rest in peace boyzoom, even though i was only there a few days you were everything to me and a whole lot of ppl, especially in these last few days...:D"

Spartan08:

"I wish the world could understand our pain. History repeats itself: a group of "different" people are prosecuted, attacked, denied their existence...for what? Because they're not normal? What is normal?"

Spartan08:

"Yea :/ at least bz wasn't "directly" taken down by the Man. I know what I want for christmas, I want bz/bl.net back T___T"

I think I've already got my Christmas present.

Boylover.net Members Raided Around the World

While the raids were being carried out in Atlanta by ICE Agents, elsewhere in the world other Boylover.net members were getting similar surprises of their own; Like the three men you see to the left (from left to right: Ivo Cespedes Cabrales, Reinoso Manuel Aguilera and Christian Halabi Aguirre), who were arrested in Chile by local authorities along with another man, Gonzalo Hernandez.

The prosecutor working the case of the Chilean's commented:

"The important thing is that this network is disrupted, the page in which they made contact with the network is down, which is a major blow to prevent further linking these subjects, sharing information,"

In our previous post about the raids, the pedos were unsure whether "Lostboy," the founder of Boylover.net, who resides in the Netherlands had been raided. It seems that this question has now also been answered:

"Agents in several other countries raided locations and made arrests Wednesday. The alleged leader of the boylover.net Web site was arrested in the Netherlands."

And the Boylover.net server? Hopefully in the hands of Law Enforcement who are waiting to pick up their next batch of Boylover.net members. The message is clear: if you have an interest sexually exploiting children, wherever in the world you are, justice will find you too.

Bitter Issues

Sosen is finally admitting they were affiliating with Nambla and yet they still can't even name them. Why is that? Is it because this is merely a desperate attempt to change their bad reputation and they know they must say SOMETHING but can't bring themselves to say that the RSOL - Reform Sex Offender Laws Campaign is the modern Nambla and WARN other sex offenders who may be taken in by them?

They seem to have a policy regarding covering up criminal activity and child endangerment. But we'll get to that in a moment.

First, someone - to use the famous words of Mary Duval - finally "educated their ignorance" as to the difference between age-of-consent laws and Romeo and Juliet laws, however when they say "We also oppose the prosecution of juvenile offenders as adults and their placement on the sex offender registry" and group that statement in with their explanation of their position on age of consent and Romeo crimes, I have to ask - is this ALL juvenile offenders or only those who had "consensual" sex with their similar aged girlfriends? Does it include people like David P. Hoffman who molested 46 boys ages 2 to 16, and 10 girls ages 4 to 16 from the time Hoffman was 10 to 18 years old? Does it include people like Anthony Cantu who molested a 7 year old boy when he was 15, treated as a juvenile he went on to molest a 3 year old boy when he was 17. STILL treated as a juvenile he couldn't be held could he? And now at the age of 21 there's a store security video of him trying to lead a 4 year old child out of a store. Does it include the original sex offender activist Joseph Duncan whose first recorded sex crime occurred when he was 15 years old? In that incident he raped a 9-year-old boy at gunpoint. He was sentenced as a juvenile and sent to Dyslin's Boys' ranch in Tacoma, where he told a therapist who was assigned to his case that he had bound and sexually assaulted six boys. He also told the therapist that he estimated that he had raped 13 younger boys by the time he was 16. But of course he had been tried as a juvenile so....there you have it.

Then we have this statement:

We are well aware that over 90% of the time sexual abuse occurs in the home in the form of intrafamilial sexual relationships.

This is absolutely a false and dangerously misleading statement. The pedo groups themselves tell us how they find their victims:

• My neighbor's kid
• My co-worker's kid
• My friend's kid
• My kid's friend
  

Etc.

Very few sex crimes against children are committed by strangers, of the remaining it is almost evenly divided between family and acquaintances. They have taken the statement than 90% of victims know their offender and extrapolated it on out into a blatant LIE. Furthermore the sexual exploitation of children is NOT "sexual relationships". It is abuse. There is an offender and there is a victim. So when they say:

We must educate the parents or those responsible for their care as to the real dangers.

I have to ask the question: Is this how they propose to "educate"? I won't even go into their recidivism tactics. Like Tom Madison said "It's Pillar Number One". They are very aware that the DOJ report they rely on does not give an accurate reflection. They are very aware that sexual recidivism is higher 3.5%. This is just another example of minimization on their part. They cannot be upfront and honest or their "Pillar Number One" would crumble. Their mission is based on lies and misinformation. When they can step up and admit that there are sex offenders who are dangerous, who need to be monitored, who should never be allowed out of prison, that parents deserve to have the knowledge that someone they know has molested children in order to make an informed decision about affiliating with that person - and when they recognize the devastating effect of sexual abuse, then and only then can they in any way be considered legitimate.

Now - it's what comes next that's the real problem:

We must find a balance by which the psychiatric community has a degree of freedom in deciding to bring law enforcement into a matter.

They are trying to (among other things) rename child molesters. Now they are simply "people who need help".

Would you prefer that a child continues to be abused because a person desiring help is too fearful of prosecution to ask for such help?

They don't ask for help. They don't WANT help. Here's the part they don't understand:

THEY LIKE IT.

They say they need help after they've been caught. I actually saw some weirdo in Prison Talk claiming to be a therapist and saying that according to mandatory reporting laws if the client didn't tell her the victims name then she didn't have to report them. I don't think I need to explain to you why that's incorrect. Furthermore The Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers - ATSA has made it clear, Therapists are not investigators. That is not their role nor should they attempt to function as such. It is not up to them to decide who should or should not be prosecuted. Who are they accountable to?

What I would like to know is why Sosen believes that people who commit crimes against children should not be punished. I would like to know why they think the victim shouldn't be recognized and be able to get the help that THEY need as well. Why do child victims not deserve justice?

Now, let's think about this carefully. Sosen, Fred Berlin, Stop It Now! and people like them say that if we abolish mandatory reporting laws people will come forward and "get help" so they don't HAVE to rape babies any more. They also say that if victims know their offender won't be punished that THEY will come forward as well. Now how in the world would something like that work you might ask? Well if their theory was correct you'd have to have broad education wouldn't you? Wouldn't people have to KNOW that they wouldn't be prosecuted? Would it be sort of like giving free reign to child molesters? Would it sound something like this?

Are you molesting your daughter? Are you a Boy Scout leader molesting little boys? Are you preying on your children's friends when they come for sleepovers? Never fear, you can tell us and you will NOT be prosecuted!

I imagine the campaign to "educate" would look something like this:

Children are NOT going to tell if they know the person raping them - the person in AUTHORITY over them is going to be allowed to stay in their home with them. They don't feel safe to begin with! They have been abused by someone they should be able to trust! They have been manipulated, threatened and deceived. They are CHILDREN. They are not adults in little bodies.

And again:

We must find a balance by which the psychiatric community has a degree of freedom in deciding to bring law enforcement into a matter.

Would that be someone like the guy whose letter was posted on RSOL?

Letter to the Editor of the RSOL Digest (March 2009)

I want to commend Kelly Piercy for pointing out the importance of words and expressing oneself clearly.

I must however take issue with some points in the discussion of
pedophilia.

Piercy also makes good points in distinguishing clinical pedophilia,
i.e, the sexual attraction to prepubescent children, from violent
predatory non-consensual sexual activity, and advocating for treatment. He then undoes a lot of that good by placing in the middle of his essay
"Pedophile = active dangerous person."
Someone who just skims the article is going to remember that. I think you could see what I mean if I were to write, apart from everything else:
¨Sex offender (registrant) = violent dangerous predator.¨
While a small few are dangerous, we all know that the great majority are not.

Furthermore, Piercy neglects to give the origin of the word "pedophilia" which comes from the Greek "paidos" = "love" and "philia" = "children," just about the farthest thing form an "active dangerous person" there can be.

If some are uncomfortable getting into the "age of consent" debate, take heart from Piercy's point about dialog. The reasons they are a bad idea can be explained to anyone willing to listen with an open mind, but more importantly, as Piercy points out, we just need to keep talking to each other, especially when we disagree.

Dr. Rick DeMasi

That's the Dr. DeMasi - in case you're wondering - who was a child psychiatrist and confessed to HIS psychiatrist

Dr. DeMasi was precise about his desires. He was a pedophile, he told Dr. Ingram, and made no apologies for it.

Dr. Ingram told no one. Dr. DeMasi went on to molest his own 10 year old patient and Dr. Ingram? Well, he got sued. And lost.

At that point, Dr. Ingram said, he stopped psychoanalyzing Dr. DeMasi -- and Dr. DeMasi ceased to be in psychoanalytic training -- because psychoanalysis and unrepentant pedophilia are incompatible. Dr. Ingram said that by mutual agreement, their sessions continued only as generalized therapy, and his goal was to challenge Dr. DeMasi's thinking, manage his stress and thus try to make sure he did not act on his desires.

But Dr. DeMasi continued to defend them, presenting Dr. Ingram with a dubious study that children were not badly hurt by sex with adults and with historical anecdotes about sex between men and boys in ancient Greece. Dr. Ingram seemed to consider this progress.

''I was pleased to see that he gradually became interested in research into the area of adults loving children from an academic perspective, that is, he was beginning to explore the literature of pedophilia in order to bolster his arguments with me, and, in so doing, was engaged in a legitimate academic pursuit,'' Dr. Ingram said in his deposition.

"adults loving children"???? I hate to break it to him but that's not "love". It's true "hate crimes".

Dr. DeMasi was stripped of his medical license, served five years in prison and was released in 1992. His history since then seems to illustrate the deeply ingrained nature of pedophilia, which many experts describe as a sexual orientation.

In 1994, as Dr. DeMasi fought a return to prison for violating his probation, The Daily News received complaints from residents in Bayside, Queens, that Dr. DeMasi was cruising the neighborhood in a van and introducing himself to boys as a child psychiatrist. The newspaper reported that Dr. DeMasi told acquaintances that he planned to go to another country, perhaps Thailand, that was less actively hostile to sex between adults and children. In August 1994, he disappeared.

Law enforcement officials located him in Mexico in 1995 and extradited him to Connecticut, where he completed his sentence and was released from prison, without any probation conditions, on April 3.

John R. Williams, one of Dr. DeMasi's former lawyers, said he no longer knows where Dr. DeMasi is, but hinted that Dr. DeMasi might leave the country again.

Yes, he did indeed leave the country. I know where he is if anyone needs him. In fact, now he's carrying out his garbage online - still saying the same things he said over 20 years ago.

But what about his then 10 year old victim?

He resists therapy because he cannot overcome his suspicion of doctors. In fact, distrust colors many of his interactions.

''For you people,'' he said, ''this is just another day at work. For me, it's another day in hell.''

The ultimate betrayals. A parent who abuses or fails to act on knowledge of abuse, pedophile priests and pedophile doctors - including doctors who fail to act on knowledge of abuse: ie Fred Berlin. Oh but we should grant the psychiatric community the ability to decide for themselves shouldn't we?

Sosen says:

NAMBLA members have also turned up in other legitimate SOL reform groups which causes confusion and outright disgust to many in the public forum.

But the truth is that Nambla CREATED one of the biggest sex offender groups there is on the internet. The RSOL. Say it. Just say it.

Sosen says:

Many groups spend all of their time focusing on former offenders, people who have admittedly made wrong decisions and broken laws.

I don't know what "group" that would be, we don't focus on offenders past crimes, we focus on offenders and enablers who are endangering children with pedospeak.

It is evident that the quest NAMBLA champions is one far removed from that of SOSEN.

That's not evident at all. What IS evident is that everything Tikibug - the COO - has said has been repetitious recitations of pedophile propaganda. You can't take bullshit and put frosting on it and make people believe it's cake. Well you can try, but you'll never even get someone to nibble on it when the smell knocks them down from 2500 feet away.

HT Jacey

BoyZoom and Boylover.net - Raided!

From Boylover.net:

"ATTENTION ALL BOYLOVER.NET MEMBERS.

This is Tabris, a Member Support Admin on Boylover.net.

As it stands, the board is closed indefinately. It has been confirmed that several admins have been arrested. At this time I can't confirm whether or not LostBoy is among those who has been raided.

I will update this thread as soon as I know more. I just thought you all should know. You're my family and I love each and every one of you, be safe and don't panic.

- Tabris"

Photo (from left to right and then below): Dale Hodges, Loren Robb, Joseph Gittings

BoyZoom:

Boyzoom Members, some very sad news.

A short while ago one of our Directors, Loren, was raided by the police at his home.

At this point we do not know the focus of this action against him.

We do know his computer equipment has been seized and we are awaiting further news.

At present there is no indication that this is related or linked to the Boyzoom website or indeed any of it’s members.

As a direct result of this the Boyzoom server was shut down whilst Loren’s account and access privileges were removed to ensure the sites security, this was done within minutes of the raid.

This is understandably very upsetting for all of the staff and members and anyone wishing support with these issues raised by this event should contact the member support team in the first instance.

We will update you as appropriate as we know more.

Here's a video about it:

Federal agents said Wednesday that they broke up an international child pornography ring and a large part of it was being run out of Metro Atlanta. Two men were placed in federal custody and two more were faced with local charges.

Two men went before a federal magistrate judge Wednesday on a variety of child pornography charges.

Court documents state the men helped to send graphic images of young boys all over the world.

There's another interesting story and video here:

Wednesday morning, the agents from Immigration Customs Enforcement were still at the home carrying out computer hard drives and boxes of other evidence.

Court records showed Joseph Gittings was the number two leader in a worldwide network operation a Web site called boylover.net. Thousands of pedophiles shared obscene pictures of children, and according to the Web site, members must post their own content in order to stay registered.

Agents also seized their computers and they could also face additional charges based on the evidence.Agents in several other countries raided locations and made arrests Wednesday. The alleged leader of the boylover.net Web site was arrested in the Netherlands.

It looks like the filth are under attack from all sides, I can't think of anything better than the thought of justice catching up to more pedophile activists!

ABSOLUTE ZERO!

Ted Nugent was pretty awesome in concert. I saw him back in the 70s, before whatshisname came along and ruined the whole thing. Anyway, I found this video and thought it was pretty reasonable.

As a matter of fact, wouldn't it be cool to set up a "pedochat" website, kind of like girlchat and boychat, but the opposite. You know, where we can post about it'd be GREAT fun to kill pedos, but, since society and the law frowns on it, it's not a good idea, because, after all, we have to protect ourselves. SO much fun! :)

The point, however, is that there are not just a few people who are sick of child rapists. Many would like to just blow their heads off, instead of just letting them offend and offend and offend, as we all know they do. This little corner of the internet is not the only place where there are anti-pedophiles. The girlchatters and boychatters would love to believe that Stitches=me=Jacey=everyone else, but the fact is, NO ONE except child molesters is rooting for child molesters. NO ONE will keep tolerating them harming our kids over and over.

This is not a threat. This is how people think about child rapists.

HT ~**Violet Leaves**~

Simon Jasper McCarty:

. . . will likely rot in Hell. But not, first, without assistance on his side by US federal Judge J. Michael Seabright. I suspect, however, that it will all "even out" in the end.

From the Honolulu Star Bulletin:

POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Nov 20, 2009

A federal judge has thrown out evidence from a baggage search at the Hilo Airport last year that discovered photographs of naked children.

U.S. District Judge J. Michael Seabright ruled Tuesday that the search by federal Transportation Security Administration officers went beyond the scope of their duties to find weapons and explosives.

He also concluded that a TSA officer's recollections of the August 2008 search were vague and contradictory.

The searched bag belonged to Simon Jasper McCarty, who lives in the United Kingdom. He was in Hawaii to give a seminar on drum circles. He has been in custody since his arrest at the airport.

Prosecutors did not comment on the ruling on Tuesday.

A security officer blog (the Private Officer News Network) proclaims:

HONOLULU HI Nov 19 2009 – A federal judge in Hawaii on Tuesday threw out all the evidence against a man caught with child pornography at Hilo Airport.

The judge ruled that screeners went too far in searching the man’s luggage.

In a ruling that could affect the way the Transportation Security Administration screens luggage. The evidence thrown out on Tuesday included video of the suspect having sex with at least three young boys, prosecutors said.

"You have to let that person off because his rights were violated,” defense attorney William Harrison said.

Harrison represented Simon Jasper McCarty, 37, whom prosecutors said had hundreds of child porn items in his luggage, including videos of his encounters with boys.

Judge J. Michael Seabright ruled that the airport screening that caught McCarty was improper.While going through McCarty’s luggage the screener said some suspicious photos fell out on the table. She then called over another screener, who happened to be her daughter. The judge said that was wrong. To make it worse, the screener could not remember later what they would seen in the first place to make them suspicious.

The law does allow screeners to report illegal contraband, but only if it is in plain sight while they look for weapons or bombs.

The judge wrote, “that the screeners did not confine their search as required and instead began their own criminal investigation into the nature of the photographs.”

"Once she had determined there was no safety factors in the items in the luggage she had no right to go beyond that and violate my client’s right to privacy,” Harrison said.

Motion to suppress is here. YouTube video here; I would present the embed but it is -- shockingly -- prohibited. Comments have also been disabled. What might you conclude is the source of that? YouTube condoning pederasts?

Federal Judge John Michael Seabright was confirmed in 2005. Cases filed before Judge Seabright can be accessed here. One of his Leftist rulings can be found here. Other Seabright rulings here.

To be taken from this ruling?

TSA employees are not considered quantifiable federal Peace Officers. And from this, they proceeded logically as might you or me, in consideration of the material at hand. Not being truly sworn federal Peace Officers, their discovery was ruled inadmissable.

However, please let this be known: Mr McCarty will face charges filed but upon his home country. Where he will return shortly.

As you and I well know: a pederast is a pederast is a pederast.

Justice here. And here. A wonderful movie here. Which I reviewed on Absolute Zero here.

I might suggest this: what goes around comes around.

How unfair is that?

I laugh at you assholes. You deign to hide your base fantasies behind multisyllabic words and dianoses. But you're still detritus. You'll all be swept aside. iPods have more attraction than do you.

BZ

But where did the money go?

Three years on from the Lindsay Ashford/Todd Nickerson "Save the Children" Fiasco of 2006 and Todd Nickerson is still feeling the burn.

For those who weren't around back then, basically Todd Nickerson and Lindsay Ashford asked GirlChat to donate money which they would then donate to the organization "Save the Children" as a publicity stunt to promote pedophilia. Nickersons role in the project was as the donation collector who was going to pass on all the donations to Save the Children. All in all, the perverts were able to pull together about $1,000.00 - everything was going smoothly - they'd made the donation and they even received a letter back thanking them for it.

At that time Save the Children weren't aware that it had been donated as a publicity stunt for pedophiles, that is until Lindsay Ashford posted a press release about it on his website:

"We are glad that Save the Children, despite the prevailing antipathy against girllovers, has seen fit to accept our gifts and in so doing recognized our commitment to aiding the empoverished children of the world and enabled us to do so."

Save the Children returned the money to Nickerson in the form of a check and he also received a letter from the State of Connecticut Attorney General’s Office threatening legal action if he didn't take the statement on Ashfords website down. Nickerson claims that he cashed the check and donated the money to another charity which he refused to name (even to those which had sent in donations):

Todd - Wednesday, August 2 2006

"Secondly, I decided to make the donation an anonymous one because I do NOT care to go through any of this crap again. I made a choice that I felt was in the best interests of myself, the community AND the children."

Later that month Nickerson complained that his computers monitor was playing up:

Todd - Sunday, August 27 2006

"I can get the background to appear pink, but everything else has a pinkish tint as well. I'm beginning to suspect the monitor is a piece of crap."

A couple of days later Nickerson's in GirlChat's chatroom boasting about his new computer monitor and other GirlChatters start to get suspicious about where he got the money for it:

Breedr - Saturday, September 9 2006

"I was there in chat when Todd talked about his new monitor. I wish I could find the most current fancy monitor out of a garbage. Oh wait a minute here, he had a pile of money kicking around."

Nickerson's refusal to name where the Save the Children donation money had went caused an uproar at GirlChat, who were demanding some answers.

Then most recently - three years after the fiasco - Nickerson posted his side of the story in a desperate plea to regain access to GirlChat's chatroom:

"I got a call from someone claiming to be FBI who demanded that I hand over money that was entrusted to me by GC or else he would frame me with child porn. I was terrified, and I felt I could not tell anyone because I was told he was a well-known poster a GC and so I couldn't trust anyone. It was my worst nightmare come true."

Kero Chan (a moderator at GirlChat) responded criticizing Nickerson's past attempt to reject his pedophilia and asking that he pay back the donation money before being given access to GirlChat's chatroom again:

"As for chat, you should try to set up a payment plan with us via email. Paying a small amount each month would go a long way in showing everyone you're serious about paying back the money you took from GC."

Nickerson responds claiming that he's already made payments, but lacks the income to pay back more:

"I did pay over half of it back ($700), so I still owe $600, hardly over $1000, but I guess it's enough. The fact is, I simply cannot pay it back. I can't make payments because I don't make enough money even to pay rent."

This begs the question: If Todd Nickerson "anonymously donated the money to charity," why would he be paying any of it back?

Anyway, he finishes up his post...

"Well, at the very least can you give me a temporary reprieve, just for tonight? I really need to talk to someone."

Nickersons biggest mistake of his life was ever embracing his pedophilia and going to GirlChat to begin with, his second biggest mistake was not going all the way when he wanted to reject it, cutting the GirlChatters out of his life for good and getting some proper counseling or psychological support before it's too late. Now look where he is, and all the GirlChatters have to offer is more of the same lies and rationalizations.

"The Rape of Her Daughters"

Pedophile activists will often try to claim that they don't support raping children. Take for example, Dissident of GirlChat in his most recent post about Absolute Zero:

"No MAA that I have EVER known has supported the use of force or coercion to achieve sexual activity with a younger person, and THAT is what the TRUE definition of "rape" is."

Some pretty bold words coming from someone who posts on a messageboard for perverts.

While any clear thinking person can tell you that any sexual contact with a child is exploitative; Dissident's whole rationalization of pedophilia being acceptable hangs by a thread on the belief that it isn't so (but that's a whole other blog post).

The man pictured above is another one of those "MAA's," you know, the ones which wouldn't dream of raping a child? His name is Michael Herbert and he was a member of Mr.Double.com under the name Abear. Herbert fancies himself as an author, and he writes stories for demented minds like those that post at GirlChat.

"This is my collection of stories, a compilation of experiences, imagination, fantasies and suggestions."

"We were sharing fantasies and story ideas through email, and she told me how she got off on stories of her daughters being raped and all, so I put a story together called "The Rape of Her Daughters." She helped me with the story, giving ideas and suggestions, and it came out pretty good.

I guess this could be looked at as a self-promotion, but I did enjoy the story. The premise is that a guy breaks into their house, ties up the mom and makes her watch him rape her two daugters."

But remember: "Pedophiles just love children, no "MAA" would ever think of raping a child..."

Herbert also shares his views on the virginity of children:

"There is a special place there where the kids can have sex with an adult, and the adults are people from Heaven, who have lived a good life and are given the gift of taking the virginity of the kids as their reward. "

There's a "special place" called prison where all child rapists will eventually find themselves - hopefully serving life sentences.

Another Threat

"I think there are plenty of non-skinny non-slimy non-introverted non-creepy pedos out there. But people just like to picture the worst. Heck, if most pedo's were muscular, we might, by now, have cops wearing robocop-like suits in everyday patrolling."


What does that mean to you? Pedophiles are always whining that they feel threatened. You know, by people who have children they're trying to get close to.

Is Stahntii saying that, if pedos were all "built" and whatever, that cops would have to worry about being attacked by them? That's what it looks like to me.

But, what do I know? :)

The RSOL Re-Writes History! ...or tries to

Recently 'Alex Marbury' published an article on the History of the RSOL, from 1998-2009.

Unfortunately, his article is not complete... he seems to have missed a few of the important parts; but don't worry - we're nice people here at Absolute Zero and we thought for a change we'd help 'Alex' and the other RSOLer's out by filling in a few of the blanks and by bringing a bit of clarity to some of the 'fuzzy' parts in their version of the 'History of the RSOL.'

Let's start where the RSOL comes in:

Marbury claims that the RSOL was formed in 1998 out of fear of repressive laws against mainly homosexual people:

This was a perfect environment to foster paranoia and to single out convenient and exaggerated scapegoats - like queers who spread AIDS, or sexual predators who prey on children.

It was amid this growing repression of sexual freedom that the original signatories of RSOL's predecessor, "The Call to Safeguard Our Children and Our Liberties," (The Call) came together in Boston in 1998.

"Homosexual" is not the word for it though. Check out the original 1998 post on BoyChat, which tells a slightly different story to Marburys version of events:

Last year, the brutal rape and murder of a young boy in Cambridge triggered a wave of indignation which targeted all 'pedophiles.' Supporters of the death penalty in Massachusetts used this case and almost prevailed. A national group called the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was especially assailed, with calls in public meetings to find and kill local members, even though NAMBLA was not implicated in the crime. [Roman Catholic] Cardinal Bernard Law was quoted a saying, "This is the closest thing I've seen to a lynch mob since my days in Mississippi."

In other words, the RSOL was formed in response to the public's outrage when two men sexually assaulted and murdered a child after reading NAMBLA material.

Next, Marbury mentions how the original statement was first drafted.

Meeting both at the American Friends Service Committee in Cambridge and at Roxbury Community College in Boston, community activists who had worked together in peace and civil rights movements, and most recently in solidarity groups to support democracy in Haiti, began to draft their original statement.

Ahhh Roxbury Community College... isn't that where NAMBLA Activist and RSOL signatory Tom Reeves was a professor? Anyway, Marbury describes the founding members of the RSOL as "community activists who had worked together in peace and civil rights movements" I guess you could call them that, or you could say...

Participants included women who are incest and sex abuse survivors, NAMBLA members, anti-censorship and civil liberties activists, feminists, gay and lesbian people, health-care workers, church activists, peace and social justice activists, academics, and those who work with prisoners."

Or maybe re-phrase that to...

Participants included women who are incest and sex abuse survivors, boy-lovers, anti-censorship and civil liberties activists, feminists, gay and lesbian people, health-care workers, church activists, peace and social justice activists, academics, and those who work with prisoners.

Whichever way you fancy, really.

Further on down the page, Marbury talks about the RSOL's involvement in a rally to release sex offenders refusing treatment at Coalinga State Hospital:

"A public rally by sex offenders was organized in March 2008 by Voices of the Gulag ( http://www.sexgulag.org) to draw attention to non-violent sex offenders committed to the California state civil commitment center at Coalinga, and to a whole series of rights violations against detainees. It was cosponsored by the Friends & Families of Coalinga Detainees and RSOL. Among the speakers was Paul Shannon of RSOL, by phone, and Tom Madison in person."

It's a little known fact, but not a surprising one by now...



Anyone care to guess who also attended?



It really is no surprise:
Click here to read NAMBLA's write-up on the Coalinga rally: "Walking the Line" written by Joe Power (shown above) who has said:

"I will assert that the persecution of man/boy relationships is a symptom of a much deeper societal disease - the artificially manipulated fear of sexual freedom."

Watch the video here as we see Tom Madison standing proudly beside "Starchild" as he demands the legalization of child pornography and the decriminalization of grooming children for sex.

I'm guessing Marbury didn't want people to see the post by Richard Kramer, (which he put up, but shortly afterward took down), criticizing sex offender activists for comments they made drawing distinctions between themselves and pedophiles. Marbury plugs Kramers organization in his article about the history of the RSOL anyway:

"Other groups still exist. B4Uact, a Maryland group whose purpose is to keep pedophiles from acting on their desires, and to help get public support for this hated and scapegoated group. B4Uact's position is that pedophilia is, like homosexuality, an orientation not chosen by individuals, but genetics."

While pedophiles don't get to choose whether or not they're sexually attracted to children, they do get to choose whether or not they seek help and treatment or whether they want to embrace their pedophilia and abuse children. Marbury states that B4U-Act aims to keep pedophiles from acting on their desires; however Michael Melsheimer, B4U-Act's director says otherwise:

Our site changed in December 2008 because of the statement you quoted. Be assured you will find no current reference to prevention of offending. You can take that to the bank.

B4U-Act is the last place pedophiles who don't want to act on their desires should go, next to places like GirlChat of course. But then again, Melsheimer even refers pedophiles he's come into contact with through B4U-Act, to GirlChat where children are openly sexualized and pedophilia is encouraged. How's that for "keeping pedophiles from acting on their desires?"

In closing, Marbury was right about one thing in his article: "Truth and reason can never be silenced."

Dissident, The Eternal Fool

This guy just never gives up. He just CAN NOT see that, well, kids don't want to have sex with him. He tries and tries to want to have youth groups to point to, the ones who say, YES YES CAN WE PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH UGLY OLD FAT MEN PLEASE!

Thing is, that ain't happnin. But not too many of these guys can accept this. One day, in a Kingdom, far, far away, there will be a place where young children will want to have sex with ugly old men and women! Imagine! Mushrooms and ferns and sunlight through the trees! It'll be MAGICAL, it'll be AWESOME, and we JUST. CAN'.T WAIT.

lol.

So. Here's Dissident again. I figured, since he was so polite as to reply to us, I figured we'd reply to him(well, we as in i lol).

First of all, if this is so hard for you to decipher, well, I just don't know what to say:

"all those with the need to hate something"

Something. Some ephemeral something that we just hate out loud and just blame it on you. So sad. It couldn't POSSIBLY be because we were fucked in the head by people JUST LIKE YOU. No way. Anyway.


"They refuse to acknowledge a difference between sexual activity achieved through force and coercion and that which is mutually desired by two human beings simply because some of those people are beneath a certain age."

No, see, we do. You don't. That's the problem.

"The belief is that giving them a response inadvertantly empowers them and gives them more control over our lives than they deserve."

They are right. You are wrong. However, because you insist that you're right, we win. Good fucking deal.

Because Dissident is so long winded, and because I choose to sleep, because, we'll get him soon, I'll cut this short. Please feel free to take other parts of his "infinite wisdom" apart.

"My response to AZ's backlash re: B4U-Act
Posted by Dissident on Friday, November 13 2009 at 01:29:57am
As we all expected, the last successful workshop of B4U-Act that I attended and wrote a review about on GC has resulted in a predictable and thoroughly amusing backlash from AZ, who can't stand the fact that MAA's are refusing to remain the punching bag of all those with the need to hate something, and who currently rationalize their outlet for hatred under the guise of "protecting children." The idea that we will one day live in a world where MAA's and youth sexuality are no longer hated and feared, and where the right to sexual expression isn't limited to those aged 18 or over, and where the words "abuse" and "rape" aren't distorted beyond all meaning by those who believe that only people above a certain Magic Age should be allowed to express their sexuality is abohrrent to the mindset of the modern anti. They refuse to acknowledge a difference between sexual activity achieved through force and coercion and that which is mutually desired by two human beings simply because some of those people are beneath a certain age. They insist on believing that an adult having a mere stray thought of someone under 18 being sexy and attractive is an act of pure evil that needs to be contained and denied any form of expression (and if you think I am exaggerating here, just wait until you check out some of Stiches' comments down below). I think the person from VoA who e-mailed me these quotes so that I wouldn't have to visit that website and become ill.

Okay, I am aware that some people here believe that the best type of response to the ignorant, hate-filled nonsense regularly spewed by the likes of AZ is NO RESPONSE. The belief is that giving them a response inadvertantly empowers them and gives them more control over our lives than they deserve. But I think the fact that MHP's are currently reaching out to us, recognizing our humanity, and realizing that adult attraction to those we today label minors is not some horrifically repulsive abnormality but something that deserves objective study regardless of how badly groups like AZ attempt to demonize them for doing so is a sign of progess. Those like AZ who want society to remain forever in the Dark Ages concerning youth sexuality and to continuously believe that every adult who is attracted to minors is an abominable monster who needs to be put either in jail or in an asylum for "treatment" (depending on which way the political pendulum happens to swing at any given time) is slowly but surely overreaching themselves with their attacks on free speech and on anyone who doesn't hold a viewpoint towards us and youth sexuality similar to their own. As a result of listening to some of the people in the community who believe we should give NO response to AZ over what they say about us, I avoided composing a response to them in regards to their recent maltreatment of Poisontears. However, THIS time it's a bit more personal. I think sometimes it's useful and even necessary to respond to the antis, NOT because I think that they have more power than they actually do, but because I think clearing up the record and letting the public hear our side of the story is VERY important. So this time I decided to give a response. In fact, the great success of the past few workshops of B4U-Act and the fact that more of us in the MAA community are starting to show their faces in public and the fact that more MHP's are starting to recognize our humanity and refusing to judge us as human beings simply due to our attraction base is a sign that the likes of PJ and AZ are starting to LOSE power and influence. Progress cannot be stifled, and it's been a rule of history that all minority groups eventually achieve acceptance, understanding, and emancipation despite the large number of people in society who are against change. AZ knows this at some level, and this greatly angers them. Their attempts to boycott every single company that may publish a "pro-pedophile" book or view (i.e., makes statements that do not totally demonize us or see us as something less than human or possibly even a non-politically correct view of youth sexuality) has proven mostly unsuccessful, which makes it clear that their attempts to combat the First Ammendment when it comes to those expressing views that they find offensive is also doomed to failure in the end. Pedophiles and hebephiles will NOT be legislated out of existence, no amount of demands on making an exception to the First Ammendment to censor every non-negative view ever expressed about our attraction base and/or youth sexuality will ultimately prove successful, and no attempts to ban or delegitimize art for daring to feature something as "obscene" as a nude child or teen will continue to be acceptable. A brighter and more free future for everyone is at hand, and this is something that the supporters of the current Dark Age of understanding regarding youth sexuality and adult attraction to minors sense and are growing increasingly fearful of. They live in mortal fear and anxiety over a future society where their current warped definitions of "abuse" and "rape" are no longer defined as such, and where young people are allowed to be sexual beings and adults are allowed to recognize them as such without being considered "sick" or pathological.

Now, onto my response to Stiches' comments regarding the most recent B4U-Act workshop:

1. There were no cops there yay!

Is Stiches hereby implying that there should have been cops present at a mere public discussion about pedophilia and hebephilia simply because the non-MAA's there were present to try and understand us rather than demonize us? The First Ammendment really sucks, doesn't it, Stiches? It's not enough that MAA's (and other curious folk) are currently arrested simply for looking at pictures of naked young people...you want the cops involved even for the mere discussion of the subject. Maybe that is one of the reason the antis are becoming less popular and less able to stifle progress and understanding these days...their desire for the police state mentality in controlling thought and discussion is proving to be incompatible with a society that purports to be based on principles of democracy.

2. There is a good reason not to trust counselors, if you are a pedophile. I mean, yeah, considering that they are compelled to report child abuse. The pedophiles all agree about this.

Um, the mistrust that many MAA's have towards counselors goes WELL beyond this, and if you read our posts less selectively you would understand that. What many of us are afraid of in regards to mentioning our attraction base to MHP's we may be seeing is based on our fear of being demonized by them and seen as something less than human, or for them reporting us to the police even if we are NOT involved in any illegal activity simply due to the popular prejudices against us and the constant assumption that we are inevitably going to "abuse" a minor. No one at the workshop ever suggested that the MHP's shouldn't report illegal activity, but the meeting was simply a call for MHP's who are more sensitive to the needs of MAA's who are having a difficult time living in this society due to all the hatred against us, the problems we may have with keeping a job or being on good terms with our families, having to deal with the constant stream of lies emanating from the mouths of the antis in the media telling us that we are incapable of being anything other than a bunch of child molesting monsters who ruin the lives of other people, etc. And you think it's WRONG for some MHP's to simply see us as human beings who are capable of being productive members of society? The truth is, MANY MAA's are productive members of society and live an entirely law-abiding existence despite having more and more expressions of our attraction base being criminalized by the government every single year. I'm sorry that these particular MHP's who desire understanding over hatred, knowledge over misconceptions, and who put science before popular politics are not to your liking, but a backlash like this is the case whenever those who live on mindless hatred see the objects of their scorn treated as human beings. The depictions of the Japanese people during World War 2 comes to mind here (if AZ existed back then, in the days before the term "pedophile" became widely known, I'm sure you would have spent all your free time demonizing anyone who dared suggest that any Japanese citizen of the U.S. should be released from those detention centers; the temptation to see the "enemy" as something less than human is quite strong, as all of the antis prove).

3. Still, the pedos want to talk to them in order to further their agenda, but they can't present their FULL agenda. Yet. Maybe later, maybe soon. Depends on how cooperative the MHPs are, of course.

Every minority group has to work towards their rights in steps. When the black community were finally freed from chattel slavery, they knew it would be a while before society was ready to accept them taking professional positions such as doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. There is nothing "abnormal" about any minority group seeking full emancipation and acceptance, and if you ever bothered to study the civil rights movements of various groups in the past you would see astounding parallels between the situations of these past groups and the MAA's and youth of today. Of course, the antis deny and claim to be offended by any such comparison between other minority groups and what they went through in the past and that of MAA's and the youth community today, but the statements you make against us now are remarkably similar to those made against other minority groups in the past. And your utter refusal to accept the fact that young people under the Magic Age can possibly have a sexual side to their nature is remarkably similar to what society used to believe about women in the days prior to their suffrage.

3. Some people are able to be in the same room with pedos and not hurt them yay!

And this is a bad thing? Once again, the antis seem to display extreme opposition towards seeing MAA's as anything other than a group of demonic beings in human form who would deserve any degree of violence that might be directed against them simply for discussing their issues in public. Damn those MHP's for being understanding and civilized instead of initiating hatred and violent acts against us!

4. Counselors are ill-equipped to deal with pedophile activists. Well, yeah.

Implying that anyone who dares to sympathize with our plight in society and who seeks real knowledge rather than the constant spewing of hatred and misinformation against is a bad thing??!! It was inevitable that counselors and other people in society eventually began seeing us as a distinct minority group rather than a group of evil monsters.

5. There is hope for the future (if you want to rape children)

I am not even going to get into it again regarding your warped and utterly retarded definition of the word "rape." No MAA that I have EVER known has supported the use of force or coercion to achieve sexual activity with a younger person, and THAT is what the TRUE definition of "rape" is. None of the MHP's we were talking to even discussed lowering or abolishing the age of consent; we were simply discussing treating MAA's like human beings and offering counseling services for those of us who need to talk to someone regarding the difficulties of living as an MAA in this society. Of course, the antis see sinister implications in absolutely everything that we do, and even the mere attempt by us to be seen as human beings disturbs them. That is what bothers the antis the most about these workshops...the knowledge that not EVERY single non-MAA out there sees us as horrific monsters.


6. Smurf dancer spoke, talking about how, because he is a sex offender, he can't teach pretty little girls to dance. All the pedos frowned about that. Apparently the counselors in this meeting frowned as well.

I see your point. So the mere fact that Paul (you can't even show him the dignity of calling him by his real name) has this attraction base and dared to look at pics of little girls automatically means that he is inherently psychotic and will inevitably rape or molest any girls he happens to be teaching. And you WONDER why we oppose such warped and vicious logic?

7. More hope!

Sorry that this disturbs you, but progress for ALL minority groups has always been the law of history.

8. Dissident spent the night with Sproutinghalo. Ang got to know him very well. -wink-

Hmmm...was this perhaps a display of homophobia by Stiches? Nahhhh...

9. Eggs could be thrown at the counselors who attended the conference AS WELL AS the pedos. Especially the ones who think pedoness is perfectly okay and that children should be hurt as often as the MAAs want.

Never mind the fact that this was NOT what the workshop was about. I guess, as usual, the antis see only what they want to see and make assumptions way out of context regarding any post they see from us. And, of course, you clearly express your fears that one day the terms "harm" and "rape" and "molestation" will NOT be used in such a warped form in the future as they are today and that one day society will accept youth sexuality as much as it currently does for adults (and you can continue to deny the sexual nature of youths as much as you want, because an increasing number of young people are being arrested and put on the sex offender registry for any display of sexual behavior, including that between peers of the same age, and young teen girls are arrested and put on the sex offender registry for sending pics of themselves in their underwear over their cell phones; NOW do you see why the antis are the ones in denial rather than the MAA community?? Heaven forbid should anyone strive to stop this nonsense). And I should mention that ALL the MHP's present were VERY concerned about kids being harmed.

10. Some of the counselors thought it was fascinating.

Heaven forbid that someone should find a man my age being attracted to young teen girls as ANYTHING other than repulsive, horrifying, or pathological. We need to control such thoughts!

11. Dissident has never seen any evidence of child sexual abuse from his pedophile peers. (HHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

I would NEVER associate with anyone who would use force or coercion to gain sexual favors from people of ANY age, and I actively discourage illegal sexual behavior from all of my peers. Sorry, Stiches, but it is possible for MAA's to live inside the law regardless of their opinions of the law. And I'm also sorry to say this, but striving for change within the system is LEGAL.

12. He told these counselors this.

Um...duh!

13. They believed him. (HAHAHAHHAHA)

Considering my real life friends have known me for YEARS and YEARS and are well aware of the fact that I DO NOT engage in illegal sexual behavior, and that MAA's are fully capable of living within the law, it shouldn't surprise you that trained counselors can actually see us as something more than a group of deceptive liars. Heaven forbid!

14. They ate food together. And agreed that Oprah is EVIL.

Yup, having lunch together makes it clear that there are people capable of sitting down and breaking bread with us and seeing us as human beings. Heaven forbid! And considering the constant stream of lies that Oprah routinely spreads about us, including the glaring example I provided in my post about that alleged instruction manual for raping kids, is it any wonder that I suggest that maybe MHP's should get to know REAL MAA's and judge them on their own merits rather than listening to everything the antis say about us?

15. The pedos perved over an underaged looking food server.

Omg...heaven forbid that I should look at and admire the beauty of a young woman who was about 19-21 years of age. And heaven forbid could this woman pass for someone under the Magic Age! At my age, I should only be looking at and admiring and fantasizing about women in their 30's and 40's, right? That's all nice and "proper" according to a society with ageist prejudices and anxieties, right? I hate to break this to you, Stiches, and I'm sorry if this offends you considering your age, but many men (and women) find young women to be physically attractive. The fact that you try to demonize and even criminalize such thoughts when they are perfectly normal and natural, and have been so throughout human history, is just plain ridiculous. And you wonder why less and less people are taking you and your crew seriously? I dared to find a young woman attractive so now I'm a "perv." Nice. And btw, I was the one who pointed out to others that this young woman serving us was beautiful, there wasn't a huge "perv" session over her. And I am NOT ashamed of myself for finding young women beautiful, and you are NOT going to make me feel guilty over perfectly natural thoughts (even if said thoughts offend middle-aged women; need I remind you that there are MANY men who are attracted to middle-aged women, including many younger men, so this type of attitude is very much without merit).

16. Dissident hugged some psych major chick and it probably grossed her out. Big Time.

First of all, she wasn't a young psych major; she was a professional MHP who was in the business for a very long time and was much older than me. Oh yes, the "filthy pedophile" hugged a much older woman and (heaven forbid!) this person actually hugged me back and thought of me as a warm human being who actually had some good qualities to his character and was proud to meet me and spend several hours talking to me. And to think she could have such a warm reaction to a man who is attracted to teen girls! Ugh, the very thought of it! Let's throw eggs at her for that! She hugged a "filthy pedophile"!! She saw his humanity! Curse her in hell for that!!

17. Party party party, go to more of these if you are a pedo or a mental health professional who thinks, hey, Pedophilia is Alright By Me!

Change is also one of the rules of history, Stiches. Sorry that you can't deal with that.

I hope I didn't make this post too long, boring, or near-unreadable for you, Stiches. And I'm sorry that my refusal to be seen by society as nothing more than a child-molesting monster offends you. "


Clearly proof that he needs to be locked up. See you in the morning.

If I was someone who could do evil things...

"Or in the back of my mind I'm going, if I date this woman I'll have free access to 3 little girls. Now I dont want to date just because of the kids, but I dont want to feel guilty that I will be using her to get to her kids."

These are the thoughts going through Severen Shields head when deciding whether or not to date women. Shields is a member of a forum for pedophiles which specializes in "child erotica" stories, known as Mr. Double. Posting under the nickname "Devholyjoke," Shields shared some of his perverted thoughts with other sickos:

"I was in the mall the other day. I had a few girt certifacites to spend, so I was walking down one of the main halls. And in front of me was this cute little 8yo girl. Brown hair pulled into a ponytail, a pink and white sweater and jeans. She was just walking in front of me maybe 3 feet. Besides thinking damn this girl has a cute ass, I also was wondering were this child parents are….So I just admired her daughter's ass as I walked to my car."

Shields seems to always be on the lookout for the parents of children he's perving on, he talks about that more here:

"As I walked past the Wii display I saw a girl about 10-11 playing it. She has blond hair in a ponytail, a pink and white vertical striped sleeveless shirt with titlets poking out and white shorts. As I was taking in her beauty I notice that there wasn't a parent or any sibling hovering around or in the general area.

Now I was thinking, this is sad, if I was someone who could do evil things I could easily grab or coax this girl out of the store and into my car before her parents would even know that she was gone. But of course I just it be my fantasy and quietly walked to the front to check out."

Abducting a child is a "fantasy" to Shields...